Do you guys use riot mode 749 degrees and grill grates for steak?

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With bullseyes scorching hot riot mode is it safe to use grill grates? Only make steaks and they stay on for 40 sec ea side.
 

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Yes, I’ve used GrillGrates on riot mode, clocked over 940* with the IR gun. Having said that, I’ve pretty much stopped using riot mode as it’s just too much. IMO anything much over 650* on the sear grates and the grate marks have a nasty taste to them, so I sear at 500* and the GrillGrates hit that sweet spot for great taste and great sear.
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Yes, I’ve used GrillGrates on riot mode, clocked over 940* with the IR gun. Having said that, I’ve pretty much stopped using riot mode as it’s just too much. IMO anything much over 650* on the sear grates and the grate marks have a nasty taste to them, so I sear at 500* and the GrillGrates hit that sweet spot for great taste and great sear.
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Thanks that’s good to know! I’ll keep it at 500, although I haven’t noticed bad taste with them on riot with the few steaks I’ve made.
 

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Thanks that’s good to know! I’ll keep it at 500, although I haven’t noticed bad taste with them on riot with the few steaks I’ve made.
’Nasty taste’ was a poor choice of words on my part. The steaks cooked this hot are still delicious, but there is a bitterness I can detect in the char.
 

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Any special procedures for charcoal grills?

Wait to place GrillGrates after the coals are burned down, ready to grill, and preheat for 10-15 minutes. Otherwise you will burn off all of your seasoning. NOTE: Aluminum melts at 1125°. Most grills top out at 700-800°. Most charcoal purists are Weber or Green Egg aficionados who understand heat control well. GrillGrates functionality is the same for charcoal grills. Food is protected from charring flare-ups and good juices sizzle just below the food for noticeably juicer more tender meats – particularly chicken and pork. If you are a high- heat charcoal griller you will love the way GrillGrates sear a steak while protecting it from drying out and charring. NOTE: You will be able to do more direct (rather than indirect) grilling with GrillGrates on charcoal grills.

Will my grill run hotter with GrillGrates?

Yes. Most grills typically run 100-150° degrees hotter at the cooking surface than the air in the hood. GrillGrates will be hotter still. Kamado grills run 200-300° hotter at the surface, gas grills 100-200° hotter and pellet grills you can expect to see about 100° hotter. Aluminum is a superb conductor of heat smoothing out hot spots and cold spots and focusing the heat of the grill to the raised rails. Adjust grill temps downward and use less fuel.
 

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I've never had any luck with grill grates. The other day I broke out my old Weber Charcoal grill. I love my Bullseye; But if you are going to spend $$$ on a nice steak. The Bullseye doesn't do them justice.
 

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I've never had any luck with grill grates. The other day I broke out my old Weber Charcoal grill. I love my Bullseye; But if you are going to spend $$$ on a nice steak. The Bullseye doesn't do them justice.
I wasn't expecting to like the Grill Grates but I was pleasantly surprised.
I will more than likely get rid of the cast iron grate I purchased.
 

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I considered buying the Grill Grates; But, I just couldn't justify the price.
I love them imo I use flat side mainly other than with steaks. The fact that you said the bullseye doesn’t do a good steak justice is insane imo. You must be doing something wrong, I suck at bbqing but reverse searing a ribeye on the bullseye is insanely good. I would put my steak up against any top steakhouses I’ve been to SW, Ruth’s, Vic&Anthy, etc.
 

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In a side-by-side comparison the Bullseye can't hold the 700 deg temperature with the top open. I think that is why grill grates work so well in the Bullseye. The grates retain the heat. The magic number on my Charcoal grill is around 2 minutes a side on a nice T-Bone. That gives me a medium rare steak.

I look at my Bullseye as a smoker that can occasionally be used as a grill. Hotdogs, Hamburgers, etc. I'm lucky to have access to local, fresh Coby Steaks . I also cook a Tomahawk from time to time. These cuts of meat need an incredibly intense amount of heat for a very short amount of time. The Bullseye does a good job of being a Jack-of-all-Trades. But, if you have $100.00 worth of steak on the grill; That's not the time to use a grill that does an, "OK" job of grilling.
 

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In a side-by-side comparison the Bullseye can't hold the 700 deg temperature with the top open. I think that is why grill grates work so well in the Bullseye. The grates retain the heat. The magic number on my Charcoal grill is around 2 minutes a side on a nice T-Bone. That gives me a medium rare steak.

I look at my Bullseye as a smoker that can occasionally be used as a grill. Hotdogs, Hamburgers, etc. I'm lucky to have access to local, fresh Coby Steaks . I also cook a Tomahawk from time to time. These cuts of meat need an incredibly intense amount of heat for a very short amount of time. The Bullseye does a good job of being a Jack-of-all-Trades. But, if you have $100.00 worth of steak on the grill; That's not the time to use a grill that does an, "OK" job of grilling.
I can’t even leave a steak on riot mode on grill for over a minute or it’s over cooked. All I’m saying is I could never go back to charcoal grill to cook a steak. I spend $40 a pound on ribeyes and nobody has had a better steak. 2 minutes each side on bullseye will char and burn my steaks it’s too hot on riot.
 

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With bullseyes scorching hot riot mode is it safe to use grill grates? Only make steaks and they stay on for 40 sec ea side.
I was the first one to respond to this thread stating that I’ve used an old, beat-up set of GrillGrates with riot mode. I’ve since dropped back to not exceeding 500* for anything. Today I was looking at the paperwork that came with a new set of GrillGrates, and it indicates that max surface temp should be under 850*. I exceeded that by 90*+ with the old set, so use them on Riot mode with caution.
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I can’t even leave a steak on riot mode on grill for over a minute or it’s over cooked. All I’m saying is I could never go back to charcoal grill to cook a steak. I spend $40 a pound on ribeyes and nobody has had a better steak. 2 minutes each side on bullseye will char and burn my steaks it’s too hot on riot.
Maybe, It's just my Bullseye. I run it on Riot mode and let it heat up for about 20 minutes. It won't get up above 650. That's plenty hot. But, once I open the lid the temperature drops over 100 degrees.

When I first got it, I could have swore it got over 700 degrees.
 

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Riot mode for me is way too hot and uncontrolled. Like others, 500 degrees is enough for me.

There is a video I think on Y0utube where a guy cooks a tomahawk steak in riot mode, the steak is burned up and he's upset, so I stay away.
 

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